[La-cgs] LCGS Meeting - April 29-30 - Save the Date!

B. Ramu Ramachandran ramu at coes.latech.edu
Wed Mar 10 13:12:27 CST 2021


Greg:

You may have meant to say "February meeting." The most recent set of 
Minutes on the Board of Regents website is January, so your information 
is new to me. Below my sign-off and the dashed line, I am pasting an 
email I saw about this from Lupe Lamadrid to Jeannine Kahn. However, 
please note that this concerns _undergrad admissions_; if approved, the 
use of DuoLingo will no longer be considered an "exception." I don't 
deal with UG admissions at all but I understand that universities are 
allowed only a certain percentage of "exceptions" in their UG 
admissions. At the graduate level, universities (or at least the 
systems) appear to have some autonomy in deciding what methods are used 
for determining English proficiency. When we decided to accept DuoLingo 
for graduate admissions, our Provost sent an email to the UL Systems 
informing them (not asking for permission).

Best regards,
Ramu
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    *From:* Lupe Lamadrid <lupe.lamadrid at laregents.edu>
    <mailto:lupe.lamadrid at laregents.edu>
    *Date:* February 2, 2021 at 2:07:19 PM CST
    *To:* Jeannine Kahn <jeannine.kahn at ulsystem.edu>
    <mailto:jeannine.kahn at ulsystem.edu>
    *Cc:* Susannah Craig <susannah.craig at laregents.edu>
    <mailto:susannah.craig at laregents.edu>, Allison Vicknair
    <allison.vicknair at laregents.edu>
    <mailto:allison.vicknair at laregents.edu>, Mellynn Baker
    <mellynn.baker at laregents.edu> <mailto:mellynn.baker at laregents.edu>
    *Subject:* *Duolingo*



Dear Jeannine –

I spoke with our team today regarding the continued use of Duolingo for 
international student proficiency determination and placement.

Several campuses have been utilizing this instrument under our Emergency 
Policy and have reached out to our office regarding its continued use. 
Our staff is planning to recommend the permanent addition of Duolingo to 
the Board of Regents Minimum Admissions Standards Policy: _Guidelines 
for Students Graduating from Non-US High School _(Under 25 Years of Age; 
Item 2, page 5) at our February 23 meeting.

Please share this information with your campuses, while we still need 
Board approval, at least your EM staff can advise students in the meantime.

Let me know if you have any questions!

Take care,

Lupe
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On 3/10/2021 12:30 PM, Greg Handel wrote:
>
> All-
>
> Northwestern began accepting Duolingo nearly a year ago now (hard to 
> believe!!!!) during the pandemic, and we have continued to do so. At 
> their April meeting, the BoR voted to add Duolingo permanently use 
> Duolingo in addition to the TOEFL and IELTS if accepted by the 
> institution. Northwestern will continue to utilize Duolingo.
>
> --G
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> *From: *La-cgs <la-cgs-bounces at lists.latech.edu> on behalf of Menon, 
> Sanjay <Sanjay.Menon at lsus.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 11:36 AM
> *To: *B. Ramu Ramachandran <ramu at coes.latech.edu>, 
> la-cgs at lists.latech.edu <la-cgs at lists.latech.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [La-cgs] LCGS Meeting - April 29-30 - Save the Date!
>
> Nancy,
>
> We currently do _no_t accept Duolingo.
>
> Sanjay
>
> Sanjay T. Menon, Ph. D.
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> Dean of Graduate Studies
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> Director of India Studies
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> /Louisiana State University Shreveport/
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> *From:*La-cgs <la-cgs-bounces at lists.latech.edu> *On Behalf Of *B. Ramu 
> Ramachandran
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:17 AM
> *To:* la-cgs at lists.latech.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [La-cgs] LCGS Meeting - April 29-30 - Save the Date!
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> We started accepting DuoLingo (minimum score of 105) as a Covid-19 
> accommodation and have decided to continue accepting it permanently. I 
> personally find it more useful than TOEFL or IELTS because we get a 
> video interview along with the score, and can actually see and hear 
> the candidate answering questions. This seems to be a better indicator 
> of their English communication ability than a number on the score sheet.
>
> Best regards,
> Ramu
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> On 3/10/2021 11:10 AM, Carol M Wicks wrote:
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>     LSU A&M does NOT accept the test.
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>     Carol M. Wicks
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>     Associate Dean of the Graduate School
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>     <mailto:la-cgs-bounces at lists.latech.edu> *On Behalf Of *Tatchell,
>     Kelly
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:07 AM
>     *To:* Nancy L Easterlin <neasterl at uno.edu>
>     <mailto:neasterl at uno.edu>; Mary J Farmer-Kaiser
>     <mary.farmer-kaiser at louisiana.edu>
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>     Hi Nancy,
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>     LSUHSC-Shreveport does not accept the test.
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>     Kelly
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>     *Kelly Tatchell, PhD*
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>     Associate Dean,  School of Graduate Studies
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>     *From: *La-cgs <la-cgs-bounces at lists.latech.edu
>     <mailto:la-cgs-bounces at lists.latech.edu>> on behalf of Nancy L
>     Easterlin <neasterl at uno.edu <mailto:neasterl at uno.edu>>
>     *Date: *Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 10:43 AM
>     *To: *Mary J Farmer-Kaiser <mary.farmer-kaiser at louisiana.edu
>     <mailto:mary.farmer-kaiser at louisiana.edu>>, "Menon, Sanjay"
>     <Sanjay.Menon at lsus.edu <mailto:Sanjay.Menon at lsus.edu>>,
>     "la-cgs at lists.latech.edu <mailto:la-cgs at lists.latech.edu>"
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>     Dear all,
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>     I would appreciate knowing any of you do not accept the Duolingo
>     test or score of 105 for graduate students.
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>     Thanks much,
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>     N
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>     Dr. Nancy Easterlin
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>     Interim Director, Graduate School
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>     Research Professor of English and Professor
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>     *From:*La-cgs <la-cgs-bounces at lists.latech.edu
>     <mailto:la-cgs-bounces at lists.latech.edu>> *On Behalf Of *Mary J
>     Farmer-Kaiser
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:05 PM
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>     Thanks, Sanjay. Looking forward to this!
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>     Mary Farmer-Kaiser, PhD
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>     Professor of History
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>     Sanjay <Sanjay.Menon at lsus.edu <mailto:Sanjay.Menon at lsus.edu>>
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>     Hi all,
>
>     Please mark your calendars for the next meeting of the Louisiana
>     Council of Graduate Schools – April 29 & 30 – on the campus of
>     Northwestern State University.  In the past, we have started with
>     lunch on Thursday and end by noon on Friday.  There will be
>     arrangements for those who would rather attend virtually.  Over
>     the next several weeks we can finalize the format and agenda.  In
>     the meantime, please save the dates.
>
>     Special thanks to Greg Handel who graciously agreed to host us on
>     his campus!
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Sanjay
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>     Sanjay T. Menon, Ph. D.
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>     Dean of Graduate Studies
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>     Director of India Studies
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> Director, Institute for Micromanufacturing
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Associate Vice President for Research & Dean of Graduate School
Director, Institute for Micromanufacturing
T. L. James Eminent Scholar Chair Professor
P. O. Box 7923
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