[La-cgs] Admission question

Thu May 4 08:47:10 CDT 2023

Colleagues,

Thanks a ton for weighing in on this!  We will update our UNO procedures to reflect this.

Nancy

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We have also had coordinators use the last 60 hour GPA rule and have factored in graduate courses in that average (as they are part of the last 60 hours).

Hope this helps!
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On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 1:34 PM Obadiah Simmons <simmonsoj at gram.edu<mailto:simmonsoj at gram.edu>> wrote:
Hi Nancy:

Like my colleagues, GSU's policy allows us to base our decision on a student's graduate record irrespective of their undergraduate cgpa.  As long as a graduate student has earned another graduate degree and/or their graduate cgpa is higher than their undergraduate cgpa, they can be admitted unconditionally.  If there's an issue regarding this, the matter is taken up by the Graduate Council for deliberation.

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Nancy:

We have admitted international students with low undergrad GPA but acceptable graduate GPA's from the US. If the undergrad GPA of 1.97 is calculated in-house, the error bars are likely to be large because of the variations in grading systems, etc. Likewise, if the MBA is from a US institution, that may provide a better indicator of the student's academic ability.

My philosophy: "We have policies so that we know when we make an exception." 😁

Best regards,
Ramu
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On 5/3/2023 12:38 PM, Menon, Sanjay wrote:

Hi Nancy,

We have specific language in our catalog that states that those with graduate degrees are eligible for unconditional admission if they meet program requirements (regardless of the UG degree).  The assumption is you were previously found good enough for graduate study.

Your question also relates to the transcript requirement we were discussing at our meeting.  If you need to calculate the two UG GPAs, then you need all transcripts from all institutions attended.  I plan to take this up with the LSU group.

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All (but mostly for ULS deans),

Happy Wednesday and end of the semester!  I have an admission question I would love some input on.

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Agree?  Am I missing something?  I would not even bother everyone but there’s a very persistent fiancé who’s currently enrolled at UNO who is relentless in her campaign for this student.

Nancy

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