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This is really a new challenge for us. I do know that Evergreen College is a powerhouse in the area of teaching and learning. I am wondering what will happen if others catch on to this style of evaluation. We are quite lost. </div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I am also not sure how SUBR would handle this type of transcript.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">They are accredited by the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities which a US DOE institutional level accreditor BUT we would also struggle with this type of a transcript. Definitely not giving
any transfer credit. If the program is amenable, I would suggest a non-degree admission and then reevaluate for program admission after nine hours of graduate work completed with a 3.0 GPA or higher.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:black">I reached out to our graduate admission specialist, and this is her response:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:black">For these, if the school truly did not have a traditional four point grading system (some programs are like this, such as the flexpath options that are out now,
which only use examinations and no GPAs), then we would recognize their degree if the school is accredited; however, we would not be able to issue any academic credit, nor GPA. I see this a lot with students applying to MSN who obtained BSN this way. If this
is the ONLY undergrad work they have, then I have to decline their application and advise that we require XX academic GPA for program entry. Nursing agrees with this, but if other departments did not, they may be able to work something into their criteria
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<p><span style="color:black">Eddie K. Lyons, PhD</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This is not an accreditation body we would accept. I don't think the school is SASCOC equivalent. </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 10:51 AM Sushma Krishnamurthy <<a href="mailto:krishnamurthy@ulm.edu">krishnamurthy@ulm.edu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Have you seen academic transcripts from Evergreen State College, Olympia, WA? The College is accredited by Northwest Association of Colleges and Schools. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">We are looking at a transcript right now that is 20 pages long and has no grades. The instructor's name is included, along with the course title and the number of credits for the class. There
is a page for each course taken with a written assessment by the instructor. Some notes are a paragraph long and others are a page or two in length. Comments include a course description, the strengths of the student, and what they could have done differently.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">The concept is very cool but does not fit in with the traditional grading scales that we use to assess candidates. How do you your Graduate Schools handle such transcripts and assign a GPA to
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Regards, </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
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