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<p class="MsoNormal">I love it! Policy driven by Workday .<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😜</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have admission status of Conditional/Unconditional in Workday. Many of our Computer Science and MBA admits are conditionally admitted, with specific conditions they must meet within a couple of terms of enrollment.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ramu<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 8, 2024 8:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ramu@coes.latech.edu; Eddie Lyons <elyons@mcneese.edu>; Mary J Farmer-Kaiser <mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu>; Bodily, Jason <jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu>; la-cgs@lists.latech.edu<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ramu,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No. There’s no way we have found to code “conditional” admission in Workday so it’s really an unused category at this point.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 8, 2024 8:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nancy Biggio <<a href="mailto:nbiggio@uno.edu">nbiggio@uno.edu</a>>; Eddie Lyons <<a href="mailto:elyons@mcneese.edu">elyons@mcneese.edu</a>>; Mary J Farmer-Kaiser <<a href="mailto:mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu">mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu</a>>;
Bodily, Jason <<a href="mailto:jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu">jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu</a>>;
<a href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu">ramu@coes.latech.edu</a>; <a href="mailto:la-cgs@lists.latech.edu">
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, you don’t admit non-degree seeking applicants in a “conditional” category, right?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ramu<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nancy Biggio <<a href="mailto:nbiggio@uno.edu">nbiggio@uno.edu</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 8, 2024 8:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eddie Lyons <<a href="mailto:elyons@mcneese.edu">elyons@mcneese.edu</a>>; Mary J Farmer-Kaiser <<a href="mailto:mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu">mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu</a>>; Bodily, Jason <<a href="mailto:jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu">jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu</a>>;
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyone who is not currently a student who wants to take a class at UNO has to apply and be admitted as either degree seeking or non-degree. For those in the latter category who want to take graduate courses, we confirm bachelor’s degree
but don’t require official transcripts. If they then want to move to degree seeking, they have to reapply and submit everything officially (including any program specific requirements).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> La-cgs <<a href="mailto:la-cgs-bounces@lists.latech.edu">la-cgs-bounces@lists.latech.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eddie Lyons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 8, 2024 7:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mary J Farmer-Kaiser <<a href="mailto:mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu">mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu</a>>; Bodily, Jason <<a href="mailto:jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu">jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu</a>>; Ramu Ramachandran <<a href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu">ramu@coes.latech.edu</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [La-cgs] [EXTERNAL] Re: Question about grad cert. and related admissions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos;color:black">For current students, we do not require any additional paperwork to take a course outside of the current program. The student is just made aware during advising that the course will not count
towards the degree. For new students, we are currently evaluating our processes. We basically follow the UL system guidelines for admissions which allows for regular, conditional, or non-degree seeking admissions. What I am finding is that for most students
that do not meet regular admission guidelines, programs are using conditional and non-degree status interchangeably. Once students meet some departmental guideline, they can be changed to regular status. Some programs do this because they want to state that
they do not accept students conditionally. For us, this is all separate from academic standing. I have also encountered situations in which a program wants to accept a student, but on a probationary academic standing. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos;color:black">Ramu, thanks for staring this conversation. I look forward to everyone's input as it will help me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos;color:black">Eddie K. Lyons, PhD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos;color:black">Executive Director, Dore' School of Graduate Studies<br>
Professor of Natural Resource Conservation and Management<br>
McNeese State University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos;color:black">Lake Charles, LA 70609<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> La-cgs <<a href="mailto:la-cgs-bounces@lists.latech.edu">la-cgs-bounces@lists.latech.edu</a>> on behalf of Mary J Farmer-Kaiser <<a href="mailto:mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu">mary.farmer-kaiser@louisiana.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 8, 2024 6:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bodily, Jason <<a href="mailto:jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu">jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu</a>>; Ramu Ramachandran <<a href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu">ramu@coes.latech.edu</a>>;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Morning, all. We have several "non-degree" options for pursuing grad-level courses, but we do require a base admission to graduate studies—basically verification
of the bachelor's degree. We do not admit them in conditional admission status.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Mary Farmer-Kaiser, PhD</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">337-482-6965</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><br>
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<b>To:</b> Ramu Ramachandran <<a href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu">ramu@coes.latech.edu</a>>;
<a href="mailto:la-cgs@lists.latech.edu">la-cgs@lists.latech.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:la-cgs@lists.latech.edu">la-cgs@lists.latech.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos;color:black">When someone wants to take a course for credit outside a regular program, they are admitted as a "special status" student. They need written permission from the course director involved, submit
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Council members:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">At Louisiana Tech, a student pursuing a graduate certificate or someone who is simply taking a course (we call it “Life Long Learning”) are admitted as “Conditional” by default. Are we required to do that?
I don’t see any policy in the UL System that applies to graduate certificate admissions/academic standing. Please let me know what policy/policies you have in these cases. Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ramu</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">B. Ramu Ramachandran<br>
Interim VP for Research & Dean of Graduate School </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">T.L. James Eminent Scholar Chair Professor
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ruston, LA 71272, USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xxxmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">+1-318-257-4304</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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