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For current students, we do not require any additional paperwork to take a course outside of the current program. The student is just made aware during advising that the course will not count towards the degree. For new students, we are currently evaluating
our processes. We basically follow the UL system guidelines for admissions which allows for regular, conditional, or non-degree seeking admissions. What I am finding is that for most students that do not meet regular admission guidelines, programs are using
conditional and non-degree status interchangeably. Once students meet some departmental guideline, they can be changed to regular status. Some programs do this because they want to state that they do not accept students conditionally. For us, this is all
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Ramu, thanks for staring this conversation. I look forward to everyone's input as it will help me.</div>
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Morning, all. We have several "non-degree" options for pursuing grad-level courses, but we do require a base admission to graduate studies—basically verification of the bachelor's degree. We do not admit them in conditional admission status.</div>
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When someone wants to take a course for credit outside a regular program, they are admitted as a "special status" student. They need written permission from the course director involved, submit an application (to get them into the system), and pay tuition. </div>
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<p class="x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">At Louisiana Tech, a student pursuing a graduate certificate or someone who is simply taking a course (we call it “Life Long Learning”) are admitted as “Conditional” by default. Are we required to do
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