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Carolyn:<br>
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We look forward to meeting you. We usually hold a Zoom meeting in
the Fall (we tentatively decided on October 18, 12:00 - 4:00 PM) and
a face-to-face meeting in Spring (TBD).<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Ramu<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, 2024 4:34 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Carolyn Jackson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jacksoncr@gram.edu"><jacksoncr@gram.edu></a>; Menon,
Sanjay <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sanjay.menon@lsus.edu"><sanjay.menon@lsus.edu></a>; Ramu Ramachandran
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [La-cgs] Update on AI Usage case</font>
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Please welcome my colleague <b>Dr. Carolyn M. Jackson</b> who
will "now" be serving as the
<b>Interim Executive Director</b> for the <b>Office of
Graduate Studies</b> (<b>OGS</b>) here at GSU. Recent
administrative changes have taken place here at GSU; I have
been asked to
<i>assume/resume leadership</i> for GSU's College of Education
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May 1<sup>st</sup> . I'll allow Dr. Jackson to provide you
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I've also shared with Dr. Jackson that <b><i>LA Council of
Graduate Deans </i></b>is a very
<i>congenial</i>,<i> hardworking</i> and <b>committed </b>group
of "<b>professionals</b>" that I've enjoyed meeting and
working with. (<b>And Ramu</b> ... I
<b>echo the sentiments expressed by my colleagues on serving
as a most gracious host for our recent spring meeting at LA
Tech; thank you</b>.)</div>
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B. Ramu Ramachandran <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu"><ramu@coes.latech.edu></a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [La-cgs] Update on AI Usage case</font>
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<div>I continue to be astounded by the lack of attention
displayed by some who use AI for writing. See the first
sentence of the Introduction to a scientific paper (p. 2
of the attachment)! This is in the neighborhood of some
of my research interests (lithium ion batteries) but it
took a Reddit scandal for me to become aware of the
paper. <span style="font-size:12pt">Even if a graduate
student generated that paragraph, the corresponding
author, Yangai Liu, should have at least read the
first sentence of his own paper. This also shows how
ridiculously superficial some peer-reviews might be --
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B. Ramu Ramachandran
Associate Vice President for Research & Dean of Graduate School
T. L. James Eminent Scholar Chair Professor
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Louisiana Tech University
Ruston, LA 71272, USA
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<p style="color:#AAAAAA; margin-top:10px">On 5/2/2024
3:15:30 PM, Menon, Sanjay
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sanjay.menon@lsus.edu"><sanjay.menon@lsus.edu></a> wrote:</p>
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style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thanks, Jason! It
is nice that you have a policy in place that
provides a basis for individual faculty syllabus
policies.</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Ramu: Here’s what
I tried out this semester (in addition to the
standard plagiarism policy which is to refer
this to the conduct board or the Community
Standards Board as it is now called):</span></p>
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<h1><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; letter-spacing:-.25pt">POLICY
ON AI TOOLS</span><span
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Students who use generative AI or other machine
learning tools to create submitted work do so at
their own risk. While students are free to use AI
tools for initial information gathering,
generating ideas, or checking grammar, any
submitted work will be subject to the above
plagiarism policy. AI tools with similar prompts
often produce similar results, and any similarity
with another student’s submitted work could result
in a Code of Conduct inquiry. Just as you would
cite sources, if you do use AI to create any
portion of your submitted work, you would need to
acknowledge the same in both the text and in the
list of sources.
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When you submit something for a grade, you are
responsible for it. You are in effect stating
that it is your own work. So, if you submit AI
created content as your own work, you should
expect the plagiarism policy to apply, with AI
tool usage considered as unauthorized assistance
from others. </p>
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Penalties for AI use in submitted work (postings
and assignments) flagged by tools such as Turnitin
are as follows:</p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:11.95pt">a.
Allowable usage - 15%. No penalties</p>
<p class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:11.95pt">b.
Usage from 16% to 25%- Any section that has been
flagged could get zero credit.</p>
<p class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:11.95pt">c.
Usage from 25% to 49% - Any section that has been
flagged could get zero credit plus an additional
10-point penalty.</p>
<p class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:11.95pt">d.
Usage of 50% and above – Possibly no credit for
entire assignment. This could be investigated by
the Student Accountability office, leading to
additional penalties and consequences.</p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thanks!</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Sanjay
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style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
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Bodily, Jason <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu"><jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> B. Ramu Ramachandran
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu"><ramu@coes.latech.edu></a>; Menon, Sanjay
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Sanjay.Menon@lsus.edu"><Sanjay.Menon@lsus.edu></a>; Louisiana
Council of Graduate Schools
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:la-cgs@lists.latech.edu"><la-cgs@lists.latech.edu></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [La-cgs] Update on AI
Usage case</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black">Here is
a syllabus using one of several examples of
syllabus language. Here is a useful site that
collects some examples of language to use in
syllabi:</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black"><a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ctl.utexas.edu/chatgpt-and-generative-ai-tools-sample-syllabus-policy-statements*:*:text=Regarding*20the*20potential*20use*20of*20generative*20AI*20tools*2C,credited*20to*20that*20system*20falls*20under*20that*20policy__;I34lJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!NGa5sw!fpDPIONxxq0s0WnkXNFAlplNFvjeaogiPih8L50LasnhoFtccweuHFYPmltxoi2Szl9cE4t7vQHCBEeBgLI$"
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> B.
Ramu Ramachandran <<a
href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ramu@coes.latech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sanjay Menon <<a
href="mailto:sanjay.menon@lsus.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sanjay.menon@lsus.edu</a>>;
Bodily, Jason <<a
href="mailto:jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu</a>>;
B. Ramu Ramachandran <<a
href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ramu@coes.latech.edu</a>>;
Louisiana Council of Graduate Schools <<a
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">la-cgs@lists.latech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [La-cgs] Update on AI
Usage case</span> </p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">If anyone
is willing to share, please send me examples of
course policies regarding AI use incorporated
into syllabi.
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<p style="margin-top:7.5pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#AAAAAA">On
5/2/2024 2:14:16 PM, Menon, Sanjay <<a
href="mailto:sanjay.menon@lsus.edu"
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">I
raised the topic at our Dean’s Council earlier
today. Looks like the topic is already on
senior administration’s radar from the
undergrad side and they are planning to invite
experts to come and talk to faculty about
course (and assessment) redesign incorporating
AI.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">Sanjay</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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<p><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> Bodily,
Jason <<a
href="mailto:jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jason.bodily@lsuhs.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 1, 2024 12:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> B. Ramu Ramachandran <<a
href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ramu@coes.latech.edu</a>>;
Menon, Sanjay <<a
href="mailto:Sanjay.Menon@lsus.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Sanjay.Menon@lsus.edu</a>>;
Louisiana Council of Graduate Schools <<a
href="mailto:la-cgs@lists.latech.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">la-cgs@lists.latech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [La-cgs] Update on AI
Usage case</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Beautiful.
Thanks</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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<p><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> La-cgs
<<a
href="mailto:la-cgs-bounces@lists.latech.edu" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">la-cgs-bounces@lists.latech.edu</a>>
on behalf of B. Ramu Ramachandran <<a
href="mailto:ramu@coes.latech.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ramu@coes.latech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 1, 2024 11:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sanjay Menon <<a
href="mailto:sanjay.menon@lsus.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sanjay.menon@lsus.edu</a>>;
Louisiana Council of Graduate Schools <<a
href="mailto:la-cgs@lists.latech.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">la-cgs@lists.latech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [La-cgs] Update on AI
Usage case</span><span
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Sanjay:</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Thank you
for this info. I agree that "all of the above
stems from considering AI usage as an
impediment to learning." We need to look at
generative AI based on large language models
as the "calculator for writing." My view on AI
usage may be stilted because of my discipline
-- most scientists suck at writing and so any
tool that helps one express their ideas
clearly (spell-check, grammar check, AI) is
always welcome. The trick is to know enough
about the subject to recognize where AI goes
off the rails -- like a pilot who knows when
to take over from the autopilot.</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Speaking
of going off the rails, I am attaching an
example that a colleague shared. The blue
highlights denote AI-generated text (More than
80% of this report was AI-generated). Note the
first sentence of the "Theory" section where
Ohm's Law is applied to a vibrating string.
Wow! This student did not learn enough physics
to recognize that Ohm's law relates voltage,
current, and resistance in a conductor, and
has nothing to do with tension, mass, and wave
propagation in a string!</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Another
problem -- the symbols for density and speed
did not copy over from the AI window to MS
Word. The student was clearly too unengaged to
notice that! Notice Eq. 1-1 where there are no
symbols -- not even the tenstion T!!!</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">I believe
Jason had asked for examples of where AI goes
wrong -- here is one! In the hands of a
careless user, even the best AI is only of
limited value
</span><span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif; color:black">😂</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Best
regards,</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Ramu</span></p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#AAAAAA">On
5/1/2024 10:46:15 AM, Menon, Sanjay <<a
href="mailto:sanjay.menon@lsus.edu"
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wrote:</span><span
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif; color:black">Hi
all,</span><span
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<p><span
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif; color:black">Some
of you might recall, that during the AI
discussion I had mentioned submitted student
work with Turnitin AI scores of over 50%. I
spoke to our Dean of Students who confirmed
that Conduct Board complaints based on AI
usage is on the rise. Here are some other
points she mentioned that may be of interest
to this group:</span><span
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<p><span
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<li class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif">It appears that a
high Turnitin AI usage score by itself may
not be sufficient to prove AI usage.
Unlike traditional Turntin reports that
provide sources that can be verified, the
same is not possible for AI outputs that
are generative. </span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span></li>
<li class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif">The board is now
asking faculty/students to provide writing
samples for comparison. This may not be
of much help in 100% online classes where
the writing sample could also be AI
generated.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span></li>
<li class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif">There is an
increase in “confessions”. More students
are admitting AI usage when confronted
with the AI usage score. This raises an
equity issue as those who deny usage are
more likely to get away with it if AI use
was prohibited by the professor in the
syllabus.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span></li>
<li class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif">Professors’
policies on AI usage widely varies across
campus with varying degrees of AI usage
allowed. Students can claim confusion
when taking multiple classes with varying
AI policies.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span></li>
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<p><span
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif; color:black">As I
mentioned during our session, all of the
above stems from considering AI usage as an
impediment to learning. If we were to adopt
the approach of “AI as an aid to learning”
or “AI usage as a required skill”, then we
would need to rethink and reorient our
teaching and evaluation methods, including
for our thesis/dissertation students. You
might recall our discussion on the value of
doing a literature review using AI, or
having AI generate code in a programming
class.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif; color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif; color:black">As
this issue is unlikely to be resolved
anytime soon, I suggest we have it as an
agenda item for future meeting. </span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif; color:black">Sanjay</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#7030A0">Sanjay
T. Menon, Ph. D.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#7030A0">Dean of
Graduate Studies</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#7030A0">Professor
of Management</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#7030A0">Director
of India Studies</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><i><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#461D7C">Louisiana
State University Shreveport</span></i><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#461D7C">Office:
(318) 797-5247 Fax: (318) 798-4120</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#0563C1"><a
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#461D7C">One
University Place</span><span
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#461D7C">Shreveport,
Louisiana 71115</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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