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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ramu,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am sorry for the delay in responding. I have been swamped and I assume others have been too.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For our master’s programs, what we have in the manual is as follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is some debate as to when this should be done and to what extent the student is responsible for finding a thesis director, the role of the department chair in the process, etc. In some departments, students fill out a “Statement
of Intent to Complete a Thesis” Form that lists all committee members prior to starting the thesis.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For our EdD program the manual says:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> La-cgs <la-cgs-bounces@lists.latech.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Ramu Ramachandran<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> la-cgs@lists.latech.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [La-cgs] Question about graduate advisors and committees<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/20/2021 5:35 PM, B. Ramu Ramachandran wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hello everyone: <br>
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I would like to learn more about the mechanisms by which graduate students (mainly doctoral but thesis students in masters programs too) select their research advisors and advisory committees at your institutions. I understand that various departments/programs
have their own policies or mechanisms but does the Graduate School have anything to say on the matter?
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Our current policy states that the Graduate School will appoint the advisor and committee. As you know, in practice, the selection takes place by mutual consent and conversations and the Graduate School is involved only in rubber-stamping the selection (as
long as no alarms go off). Do any of you have policies in place that acknowledge this reality, and perhaps even put some burden of choosing a major advisor on the student? If you have a Grad School or departmental policy that suggests that the burden is on
the student, at least to some extent, I am very interested in learning more. <br>
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Looking forward to the great feedback, as always. <br>
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Best regards, <br>
Ramu <br>
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B. Ramu Ramachandran <br>
Associate Vice President for Research & Dean of Graduate School <br>
Director, Institute for Micromanufacturing <br>
T. L. James Eminent Scholar Chair Professor <br>
P. O. Box 7923 <br>
Louisiana Tech University <br>
Ruston, LA 71272, USA <br>
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318-257-4304 <o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>B. Ramu Ramachandran<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Associate Vice President for Research & Dean of Graduate School<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Director, Institute for Micromanufacturing<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>T. L. James Eminent Scholar Chair Professor<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>P. O. Box 7923<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Louisiana Tech University<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Ruston, LA 71270, USA<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>318-257-4304 (Graduate School)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>318-257-5106 (IfM)<o:p></o:p></pre>
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